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megamorgs
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Jaffa?

I have a few questions I hope somebody could answer for me regarding the ubiquitous and apparently useless Jaffa.

1. There seems to be some confusion (especially on my part!) as to whether Jaffa are human or not. Are they modified humans (supported by episode 'Hathor' where Goa'uld of title gives Jack a pouch) or humanoid aliens (supported by many other episodes in which jaffa are referred to as aliens and non-human and whatnot - sorry, no specific examples)
2. Every System Lord has Jaffa, 'undreds of 'em, if not thousands or even more, and every Jaffa has a symbiote, right? AND they can carry multiple...prim'ta?...in their lifetime? So what on Earth happens to all those Goa'uld larvae when they mature? System Lords would outnumber Jaffa!!
3. Were Ra's guards in the movie Goa'uld as opposed to Jaffa? Other than Tok'Ra (don't really count) and Ashrak (?) assassins, what other non-System Lord Goa'uld have we seen?
4. Why are Jaffa so absolutely rubbish and useless in combat with the inability to aim even a staff weapon well and have 'armour' so thin a 9mm bullet penetrates it with ease?

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1) Teal'c says (in "The Enemy Within") that it was from Tau'ri that beings of this form (humans) were harvested and cast among many worlds. Some became Goa'uld. Some became Jaffa (hence support of the modified human theory). Some became mere slaves.

2) The Goa'uld are most likely very, very picky as to which young Goa'uld are allowed to mature and become implanted in humans. These critters are sneaky and manipulative, remember. Best not to have thousands of Goa'uld climbing the social ladder around in your courtyards, lest a couple of them stab you in the back and take your holdings.

The Goa'uld must undergo an intensive culling, and maybe (random figure here) only 1% of Goa'uld spawned are ever allowed to be implanted. The rest are destroyed.

3) Movie vs. TV-Show. Nope. Not getting into this circus ring again...

4) Simply put, failure on part of the Goa'uld to read that "Top 100 things to Do When You're an Evil Overlord" list floating all over the internet.

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RH said it all there. Is that all?

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the remaining 99% of Goa'uld are served with Ketchup at parties and barmitzfas.

Jaffa are born humans, but get turned into Jaffa when they grow up, like Teal'C's son.

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Quite

Right they also eat them.

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Does anyone here remember that episode on sokars planet or something? My guess is, the whole planet was filled with Goa'uld.

Most of them are probably just bog standard folks going about their evil lives being scientists/inventors/doctors furthering the cause of Goa'uld domination.... just because the system lords have been shown to be idiots, that doesnt mean theyre all like that, theyve shown Goa'uld spies, who cant be goaded like system lords, theve shown lawyers, masochistic leather wearing S&M women Goa'uld, weve basically just been shown an insight into the military and top brass of teh Goa'uld, their foot soldiers, the Jaffa, who no doubt are seperated from most of goa'uld society, being their soldiers, defenders, and incubators.

Its like trying to judge humanity by looking at the military and leaders and political parties of the world..... you have to look at the cities, the country side, the people.... would that be a good episode? Where SG1 comes across a planet of Goa'uld? sees a society full of glowing eyes when someone cuts someone off in a traffic jam? Theyd have to infiltrate the planet...hmm. I digress.

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president doc is right, and his explanation is very good.

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President Doc is ALWAYS right. I have discovered te truth and he is it.


Oh my god, you have been drugged, that or doc has hypnotized you

I have always gotten the impression from the show, that there are very few Goa'uld.

the jaffa serve the Goa?uld because they believe they are gods, would they still believed it, if they knew there was an entire race of gods/ Gouald walking around.

The jaffa follow them, because the Gou'ald are the unique few who exhibit special powers and so on, but if they found that this was common throughout an entire race, then the jaffa would obviously revolt.

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the remaining 99% ones are eaten by the system lords as seen in last stand

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The Jaffa are kept segregated on planets far away from Goa'uld civilisation, they are a race of slaves, fit only to die for their gods.
Chulak for example, even if they are feudal in nature, dont you find it odd that the living conditions on chulak were so basic?
Then there was Sokars planet!

Also, even though a lot of those tykes were eaten to seal the deal, it was stated by danny boy that he didnt want the remenents of thoes things to be shoved down his neck, like kawalskys one, all that was left was its head, but it was still active, if they just shoved the heads back in cryo, they could still probably be used
But yeah, in that eppy, they said population growth has reached zero... the only good thing to come out of that statement is that it suggests theyve reached a peak level, and have reached their maximum stable population level, i.e on earth, that will be when we hit about the 9 billion mark, Im sure there arent about 100 Goa'uld, but more like in the billions.

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Personally i love too see the Jaffa in action.Ive seen references that they are stupid or just cannon fodder.This isnt so.Granted there are alot of eps where the Jaffa warriors are just gunned down/blown up but this isnt stupidity.Its loyalty and honour.Moving brave warriors to die for what they belive as gods.Weve see large numbers of Earth tribes and factions just throw there lives away in aid of there beliefs.

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If there were tons of Jaffa available, why did Hathor steal away jaffa from Poppy and Herur? Remeber she didn't create any of her own until Jack.

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Because she just came onto the scene after several thousand years of hibernation. Shed lost her entire empire.

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Yeah thats why i was racking my brains!!!

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