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Vanessa Angel was also in kingpin... one of three Farrelly brother movies i can sit through and not think "what the hell is this crap!?". The other two being "Theres Something about Mary" and "Dumb and Dumber".

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Yes, isn't it funny how when Jack or Daniel or some other male character is half naked then it's all ok... But as soon as a female dresses in anything other than a dress that you cant even see her breasts in -- oh no! get her off!

I guarentee that most of the people disputing her character are females (more than likely, older) who are jealous of her body Same sort of people that have a go at models and other attractive women.

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wow, this debate seems familiar....

hey, i'm all for attractive women (DUH!!!) but the actress just annoys the crap out of me!!!! dont ask me why. Same with Catherin Bell (from JAG). she's HOT but damn if her acting/character/whatever just doesn't get on my nerves. I have no explanation.. i guess its kinda like - you meet someone and instantly hate them, even tho you dont know anything about them or haven't even spoken to them before???

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Yes, isn't it funny how when Jack or Daniel or some other male character is half naked then it's all ok... But as soon as a female dresses in anything other than a dress that you cant even see her breasts in -- oh no! get her off!
I guarentee that most of the people disputing her character are females (more than likely, older) who are jealous of her body Same sort of people that have a go at models and other attractive women

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Hmmmm, for one thing, Vanessa Angel is no youngster. She has to be at least mid thirties ,so actually, most of the females who didn't like her wardrobe here are younger.
When the guys have their shirts off, which isn't too often, it's usually for a good reason. Anise's skin tight rubber boob outfits were strictly gratuitous to entice the teenage male viewers. She couldn't act either.

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i agree and that didnt make her look that good anyway its like leather some people get tunded on and others off

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Yes, isn't it funny how when Jack or Daniel or some other male character is half naked then it's all ok... But as soon as a female dresses in anything other than a dress that you cant even see her breasts in -- oh no! get her off!

I guarentee that most of the people disputing her character are females (more than likely, older) who are jealous of her body Same sort of people that have a go at models and other attractive women.

/me ready to be flamed

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hell yeah. I wish I had me bazoinkas practically poppin' out and weirdarse leather/vinyl type clothing

And guys have goes at models and attractive women too :P
I think it's just that unusually for a SF series, sg1 has a huge female following. So they got an unusually big negative reaction when they introduced the male eycandy character.
But you've got to admit, Jack & Daniel may get their shirts off (not that I can recall it ever happening) but they do have a non-himbo image.

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I think youll find that other sci fi shows also have large female audiences!

The argument could be made that they have to cater to everyone, including the horney teenage male market, i mean, why should they just cater to us people who enjoy the finer things in gate?

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I dunno if a show like trek would have as large a proportion of female viewers as sg1. There are female viewers...and a great many. But I'd say there are many more male ones. But then this is just my guess
I know a lot more females who watch sg1, and refuse to watch anything else 'SF' except Buffy if you can count that as SF. A few of 'em might watch XF sometimes too but that's about it. *shrug*
Alternatively I know a few male trekkers, who refuse to watch things like sg1. Lamers

Now in the sg1 fandom, there seems to be an even number of both male/females. If anything more females - or maybe that's just the females being more vocal

as for the horny teenage male market...they're all watching buffy :P I know my horny teenage male friends are anyway..heheh. Horny teenage male <-- triple negative? :P is there any other type?

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In my experience, ive come across a large number or female trek fans... they are however.... not less vocal...rather... well, just not 'out there'...ya know? they seem to be increasingly vocal on the net nowadays though..so!

First off, i dont watch buffy, but im not a horney teenage male, im not a teenager anymore.
(actually i am, a teenager that is.lol, for one more year, but i most definitely dont watch buffy!)

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In my experience, ive come across a large number or female trek fans... they are however.... not less vocal...rather... well, just not 'out there'...ya know? they seem to be increasingly vocal on the net nowadays though..so!

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Yeah, thats a damn shame...
im gonna write to the producers to complain about this terrible terrible portrayal of women...

but yeah, sometimes I do cringe at when they show profile shots with women sticking their chests out right next to the camera in skimpy clothes for no good reason, well, for a good reason, but not to do with the plot ya know?

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Yeah, thats a damn shame...

but yeah, sometimes I do cringe at when they show profile shots with women sticking their chests out right next to the camera in skimpy clothes for no good reason, well, for a good reason, but not to do with the plot ya know?

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LOL. As in Seven of Nine, Anise, T'Pol. You'll notice (you probably have ) that the camera is always aimed so that their chests are in the center of the frame. Co-incidence? Nah.

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There are female viewers...and a great many. But I'd say there are many more male ones.

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i dont agree if you ever go to a com you will usualy be somtherd by(over weight) woman who yell and screem more than at beetels concert

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i spose not, but it may be apropriate for dedicated fans like us

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