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In reality, wolves are pack animals with a very organized social structure, including the alpha male and the alpha female to whom all other members must submit. The alpha male (Jack in this case) is constantly showing his rank to all other members, especially when they become threatening and try in invade his domain.

Also, wolves are some of the most loyal and dedicated animals alive. They will live and die for their pack as necessary for the survival of the group.

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Yes, there are lone wolves that wander in solitude because they were ostracised from the group. I suppose you could say that Jack was a "lone wolf" after the movie, but once he was returned to active duty and assigned to SG-1, his "pack", he became "alpha male" in that group. He's the commanding officer. He's in charge.

There have been "threats" if you will to Jack's status as the commander, as seen in "The Tomb" when he was being highly compeditive with the Russian colonel. There are obvious signs of "aggression" and disputes over who is in command.

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And what social animals won't die for their group?

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Many social animals live in groups that are unstable and must deal with internal strife and external competition. In groups such as these, it ultimately comes down to the survival of the individual instead of the group. An example would be lions. If the pride is being threatened by another male who eventually takes over that pride, he will kill all cubs that are not his offspring. The females do nothing to stop this and do not sacrifice themselves to defend their cubs. A new group is formed, and the females will be cooperative with the alpha male until a stronger one comes along and defeats him.

Few social animals are as solidified, structured, and stable as wolves. Unlike other social animals, the alpha male is not the only male in the group. There are usually several other males that are subordinate to him but are not ostracised and ridiculed by the group.

And, by the way, I started this idea because I found the parallels amusing, but I am having fun arguing my point.

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Jack, er... plays stupid, has cool lines, and blows shit up with thermonuclear devices...

He's also sneaky and shtumped Carter when she couldn't remember it .

C'mon people!

(And people ragged on me about the "Carter's Underwear Poll"!!!)

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and blows shit up with thermonuclear devices...

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But he wouldn't have the devices if it weren't for Sam.

Rithmah - You're getting way to into it. I'm that that hugely a fan of Jack to debate him so much.

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Originally posted by president doc
They let their women do all the work, and take all the benefits

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Jack represents the "older" man who can still be sexy, still command loyalty, and look so damn good in those pants.

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And what social animals won't die for their group?

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Humans. The most selfish animal on the planet!

And, on the subject of Jack. Well, I really don't know, I don't really see a character in a Sci-Fi series (same for other genres such as soaps etc) as a person, especially as he could be the complete opposite in real life. I just go by the motto WYSIWYG. Therefore, his character is just what his character is created to be. Oh, but, he is kinda good-looking.

Relationships between characters in these type of shows (shipping or something?) really is just darn pointless, turns into a baywatch; watched only by some love obsessed women .

One thing I do agree on though - Dogs are the best people! Loyal as loyal can be.

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One thing I do agree on though - Dogs are the best people! Loyal as loyal can be.

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[insert whatever Robert De Niro said in Meet The Parents about dogs and cats affection.] Cats rule.

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lol, I love it when people say that humans are the only creatures which fight each other or are selfish.
Every species on this planet is filled with selfish beings.
Humans have learnt that cooperation often leads to advancement... and ive had this reply sitting here for 20 minutes and forgot about it...

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Oh no. Cats are far too scratchy any annoying, dogs resemble more of a companion, more friendly etc. Oh and cats smell more.

Doc - I think the difference is humans have more intelligence. I don't moan about selfishness, as we all are . So it doesn't bother me. But, I never said we were the only creatures on the planet to be like that ;p.

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Well.... I could say his wit, his sarcasm, his little kid way of looking at things, his cool way of stating things (Eunuchs, as in snippity doo dah? Sorry Queen Lou, but I love that line).

BUT - in my reality I would really have to say...its because..

*shouts* "What a hunk"

but that's looking through my eyes, with my thoughts

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Good list, although Zepher, I would have to add - *his Body* - not that I have studied it in any great detail

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His body? I wasn't really impressed in ... the Broca Divde. Or was it Hathor?

I'm sure George Clooney has a better body, even if he is 10 years younger.

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Oh Tula, the body???
Venus - George Clooney????

Thinks of appropriate response

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Tula

The body, well haven't seen much of it, Hathor episode showed a little
Quote, Sam "Wow", Jack "Crunches"

Deliberate misquote...Chrunchiessss, bbbbbringggg on that FFFFriday feelin! For those of you old enough and sad enough to remember the advert eh Tula....

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