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320rwekfpl
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Now did he? Anyway... That's my point. Is the Jaffa-Symbiote relationship similiar to the Host-Symbiote relationship? Is the Jaffas symbiote not in control because it hasn't matured enough? What's the deal? Why doesn't Teal'cs symbiote just put him in place???

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Jaffa's are just incubators for the symbiotes. Teal'c didn't even think he could communicate with the symbiote till Shan'auc(Crossroads #4.4) came to earth saying she had made contact with her symbiote. In that episode we learn that the Tok'ra and the Goa'uld have been so far removed that The Tok'ra no longer share the same genetic memory. Shan'auc believed she had convinced her symbiote to share its genetic memory with the Tok'ra, but was decieved, and then killed. That is when Teal'c tried comunicating with his symbiote and found out the complete contempt his symbiote had for him, who did this by showing him the genetic memory of Teal's father and Cronos.

As I understand it, jaffa can't be made into hosts. Why? I don't know for sure.

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ok if i am repeating what someone else has said nuke me otherwise
listen
in Absolute Power we are told that shifu had the genetic memory of all Gou'ald before him
so a sybiote has all the gou'ald memories that came before him.
Apophis Ammunet etc..
but he won't have the knowledge of gou'ald after they had fathered.
i.e
if apophis father fathered apothis and then found out how to kill the asgard apothis wouldn't know that because it wasn't in Apophis father memory when apothis was spawned
hope that has cleared everything up

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As I understand it, jaffa can't be made into hosts.

Sho'nauc was going to be made into a host - she was a priestess, isn't that the female equivalent? And what about that ep with Ketano/Imhotep, wasn't he a Jaffa?

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And what about that ep with Ketano/Imhotep, wasn't he a Jaffa?
I didn't think so. He didn't have a pouch did he?

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We never saw his stomach so its not certain whether he was or not.

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I'm a little confused - I thought Teal'c's father died because his symbiote was killed, therefore Teal'c could not have been given his father's symbiote. Or am I getting mixed up here?

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don't know there, i was only going by what was said earlier in the post. The one ep i've never seen is crossroads.

However, I presume the goa'uld do not like taking jaffa as hosts because it would kinda contradict their god maquerade (the jaffa's best friend is suddenly a goa'uld, and he's supposed to treat him like a god?) and/or they would lose an incubator everytime they did.

I presume junior's never taken over Teal'c because he's too young. he was younger than symbiotes usually are when implated and it takes seven years to develop.

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don't know there, i was only going by what was said earlier in the post. The one ep i've never seen is crossroads.

However, I presume the goa'uld do not like taking jaffa as hosts because it would kinda contradict their god maquerade (the jaffa's best friend is suddenly a goa'uld, and he's supposed to treat him like a god?) and/or they would lose an incubator everytime they did.

I presume junior's never taken over Teal'c because he's too young. he was younger than symbiotes usually are when implated and it takes seven years to develop.



Jaffa with ideas above their station - all you would have to do is bog off for a couple of years to somewhere remote & hey presto junior has no-one else to chose but you - instant Godhood. (well nearly instant, the hiding out bit etc..)

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If "Junior" were mature enough to leave Teal'c, it would be someone else that would have to worry about being taken over, not Teal'c. Everything I have seen in SG-1 suggests that a Jaffa can NOT be taken as a host. When a human is altered to become a Jaffa, they become dependent on the symbiote for an immune system. When O'Niell was made a Jaffa by Hathor, he was healed by the sarcophagus. I wonder if Teal'c could also be healed, or has he been a Jaffa for to long?

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The sarc restores you to your genetic code, since jaffa are a species now they would just be returned to their healthy, jaffa state.

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Jaffa's are nothing more then humans. Teal'c wanted to return to his planet before his son was made into a jaffa, but was to late. This is when he had to give Rya'c his symbiote to save his sons life. Thankfully Daniel and Sam had procured another infant symbiote that Teal'c has now. Jaffa are not born Jaffa, they are made Jaffa, if they are worthy.

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I think that Jaffa are a genetic anomaly. They are a species that are born the way they are. At one point they originated as hosts the way jack ws in hathor, but now it is irreversible.

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Beware may be a spot off topic
OMG Venus missed a spelling error? She missed that it is Kitano. Oh lord s it is reversible, however hard it would be it would be possible. It would have to be a multi generational project somewhat like what Nirrti did on Honka (for the love of god please tell me i spelt that one right)

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