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Master Bra`tac

I apologise if this has been posted before.....

Bra`tac was the first prime of Apophis before Tea`lc.

Tealc was the first to defect to the side of the tauri, he became hated and despised by the system lords and a hefty price is now on his head....

yet Bratac has been known to aid the tauri since Apophis lauched his attack on earth at the end of series one.

I always thought that it was a very inconsistent part of the storyline when Tealc is always branded a "Sholva" and Bratac seems to move around the galaxy free from the attention of the system lords.

After he helped foil Apophis attack on earth he returned to Chulak, how come he only took one beating ?(from several Jaffa) and when Apophis returned he didnt bother to sort him out?

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He possibly could have said he was wrong. I can`t remember anything off hand from any of the episodes that explains this. Is it 'Family' which is the next episode we see him in after the season 2 premiere.

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Both Tealc and Bratac are of the same mind. They both believe the Goa'uld are false gods. Tealc decided to defect, but we are never told why Bratac didn't. Perhaps he felt it was best to assist Tealc/Tauri by remaining covert.

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I think he is covert as well. Somehow he manages to move freely without anyone knowing or caring.

Or it could be that the Goa'uld simply see him as an old fart who couldn't possibly be so smart as to instigate mutiny in various Jaffa armies...

But eventually, his luck is going to run out.

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Thats my hole point he wasnt very covert when he stood in front of Apophis and told him that he had spent 133 years worshiping false gods NO MORE then he shot the peltac thus dooming Apophis`s two mothership and saving earth.

Although Bratec didnt defect to earth like tealc he still defied / betrayed Apophis....

He can just roam around Jaffa and Gouald planets without any problems..... where as the Goauld have tried alot harder to capture Tealc to exact revenge

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well bratac is an old and very smart/cunning man, he knows alot more than he is supposed to

I think that is how he was able to avoid the goauld

also he has some jaffa who suport his cause, and they were probably able to hide him

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In "Bloodlines", it took some finagling and sweet talk to keep Bra'tac out of trouble after helping SG-1 escape Chulak. He said that much in the Season 2 opener.

After aiding in the destruction of Apophis' attack force, Bra'tac was in open rebellion against the Goa'uld, but lay low and hidden on Chulak. He, too, was a traitor, but he had trained this cadre of Jaffa to quietly defy the Goa'uld, and they helped him remain out of sight.

When Apophis fell at the hands of Sokar, Bra'tac instigated a planetary rebellion on Chulak. It initially failed as many Jaffa of Apophis' retinue fell in line with Klorel, but that rebellion took a second wind at the start of Season 3.

The rebellion on Chulak fell through, however, when Apophis took Sokar's armies and laid waste to the world. Ever since then, Bra'tac has been part of a refugee rebel force, a leader of a fallen rebellion, until we get some of the later episodes like "The Warrior" and "Allegience", where the rebel Jaffa gain some organization.

In short, Bra'tac has been a shol'vah since the start of Season 2. His involvement just hasn't been as visible as Teal'c's.

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Originally posted by Rhydderch Hael
In short, Bra'tac has been a shol'vah since the start of Season 2. His involvement just hasn't been as visible as Teal'c's.

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Originally posted by StuntMan_Stan
...I always thought that it was a very inconsistent part of the storyline when Tealc is always branded a "Sholva" and Bratac seems to move around the galaxy free from the attention of the system lords.

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I think this can be explained quite simply; when Teal'c turned he was at that time the First Prime - an outright attack on his God. Brata'c had long since been replaced when he turned; in the strict hierarchy of snake-land this wouldn't be seen as being as severe. Yes sure Brata'c is wanted, but so are a lot of other beings. Teal'c is number one enemy because of his closeness to Apophis when he snapped.

PS. Plus the bridge is too well guarded.

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Its' just a tiny weeny glitch in the story line. He hasn't done anything more than teal'c and he moves and teal'c doesnt'. Its easier to put a price on the head of someone that u now exsists!

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Teal'c opposes the Goa'uld every single day and prances through the gates in the colours of the enemy teaching everyone he knows that the Goa'uld are false Gods. He rubs Apophis' face in it with every single thing he does. They'll go after Bra'tac, but for the time being Teal'c is the man they want.

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I wonder if Jaffa jealousy comes into it? Sure the System Lords want Teal'c for reasons outlined above; and as Bose says they'll come after Brata'c eventually. However in the ranks of Jaffa (those still in the service of their Gods) there seems respect for the old master yet contempt for Teal'c.

Or are they merely counting the (what do Jaffa use for money?) reward when they serve up his head to their God?

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Ive never seen any material money, but there is one type of guarente, Serve or die! No teal'c was the first to go over to the tau'ri and we all know by now that any human who doesn't use "real weapons" is regarded with contempt. bra'tac has stayed with his bretheren and fought on , whereas Teal'c has gone off to fight with a little known race of non-hosts, not good for the browny points!

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Originally posted by Jonas
(what do Jaffa use for money?) reward

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It's mentioned in Bloodlines, when Apophis offers some for the capture of Teal'c. Shesh, I think, or seshta. (The first of which means scribe in AE. )

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