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when were the 'constellations' named? you dont think that the Ancients had built the Stargate looooooong before the concept of naming the stars was even considered? I still think that the ancient earth cultures names the constellations based upon the glyphs on the stargate, not the other way around, and hence the glyphs are a universal coordination system, not earth based

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Right JK, the ancient cultures of earth probibly got the constilation idea form the "gods" of the time. Which are also on the gate.

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The people who made the gate would logically have progressed from cave dwelling etc, up through nuclear energy, on to Stargates etc. At the earlier stages of their development, they would likely have also hit on the idea of studying the stars, and grouping them (every other culture on Earth has), and so the constellations would have been known to them before they built the gate. Using the apparent directions of them from a stationary point relative to Sol as a method of determining destination makes the most sense, since they are *almost* fixed points of reference. Now, using these glyphs is fine on Earth, but on any other star, how then do you know what glyphs will take you somewhere?

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ok, THATS IT...im gonna find that other thread... constellations and the 6 point reference system are just sooo wrong.

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ah there it is, its that 2001 spoilers something or other in the in depth forum... the whole thing...sigh blah blah blah.

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ok, THATS IT...im gonna find that other thread... constellations and the 6 point reference system are just sooo wrong.


Lets not start on that again, shall we. Of coarse B-E is here, do you mind if I call ya B-E, so he might have something to say on it. I say that you don't need the six point reference if you have diagram, like a 3D X,Y,Z graph. Thus you would need a (0,0,0) point. But if they didn't have that point and they just wanted to go on reference points or land marks, such as a constalation, then they would need the six points. Just depends on how they understood space when the gates were placed all around.

Oh, and I found out what your name means B-E. The slowing down of atoms and stuff that can make a new type of matter, am I right about that?

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quite simply the concept is flawed.... collapses.I GIVE UP.. MUMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Please see the other thread I posted, (although I think it is dying from lack of posts, maybe not enough physicists on the board)

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At the earlier stages of their development, they would likely have also hit on the idea of studying the stars, and grouping them (every other culture on Earth has), and so the constellations would have been known to them before they built the gate.


No, i mean that the gate was here before the ancient people of earth could even use a spear... The Ancients, maybe they governed or ruled the planet for a while, then left, the Goa'uld took over for a few millenia, humans revolt, normal history progressed yadda yadda...

So the idea of these 'shapes' (ie: the gylphs) on this wonderous silver ring from whence the ancients came through from teh heaven, would have been in the culture of humans for a loooong time before they even started to associate them the stars... and did so to honour the long-gone alien creatures..

At any rate, the contemporary constellations, as we know them today, were only 'discovered' in the last few millenia, and the gate was here long before that.

It just doesn't make any sense for it to be any other way. There is no way, if the gates are all the same save the point of origin, that the glyhps are based on earth's pov of the stars.

UNLESS!!!!!!!!! The Ancients ORIGINATED on earth.... which opens up another can of worms (hey, i'm happy to dig up that thread too )

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*flashbacks to Hume*

Ohmigod!! How did I do that? I managed to squeeze this post before Goa'uld's!! (I was posting in response to him)

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*flashbacks to Hume*

Ohmigod!! How did I do that? I managed to squeeze this post before Goa'uld's!! (I was posting in response to him)


i know all of goa'ulds posts are being pushed to the bottom!
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