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The trick to it is being strong enough in the mind not to fall into the religious 'trap'. You are more likely to take the easy way out (god) if you are scared or near death...

I like the message that SG1 spreads, we need more like it to help us ease away from religion...

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I would think its the general idea that people must follow and believe in something that was written by man, which wouldnt be a problem, but is without proof or experiment.

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I wasn't actually sure what WF meant in the bit you quoted KC? I suppose maybe he just means that you're seen as 'stronger' if you make it through life without (belief of?) guidance from a divine being? What message is SG giving to 'ease us away from religion'?

We don't hate religion, we just dislike... aspects of it (or some of us do). And don't hold your tongue, feel free to yell.

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Yeah but no one said must.
Imo people who strongly advocate atheism, are as bad as the one's that are overly religious and tell you to repent.
I'm a strong believer in letting people believe whatever the hell they want to, because I don't like being told what to and what not to believe, and I suspect others don't either.

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I fell the same nug, I don't mind what epople believe. It's just that I can't stand people completely bashing religion. If you don't like it you don't like it, whatever, that's your own choice. But some people (not most of you, I don't think) seem to think of it as evil and stupid and people who believe in any religion are the same.

But I really was curious as to why so many people hated any form of religion so much. Hating religion and simply not believing it are two different things.

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I would have no problem with religion if it didn't get in the way of truth, the church as to much power, religion is good for people but when it starts getting in the way then I start objecting strongly. IMO the era we do away with religion the better, imo we have been deluded for to long and it has got out of hand, let people believe what they want to believe, just don't let it get in the way of the advancement of mankind....

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IMO the era we do away with religion the better, imo we have been deluded for to long and it has got out of hand, let people believe what they want to believe, just don't let it get in the way of the advancement of mankind....

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Do we live successfully with religion?

The Abydonians never had a religion so much, as in a "belief", they knew their God existed, I suppose it was just debateable that he was a God, which isn't exactly religion, it's just a very dictatorial type ruler. I think.

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Do we live successfully with religion?

The Abydonians never had a religion so much, as in a "belief", they knew their God existed, I suppose it was just debateable that he was a God, which isn't exactly religion, it's just a very dictatorial type ruler. I think.

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It's interesting actually. I am of the opionon that religion is a stage that we must go through in our development as an advanced sentient species, but that we are approaching the end of it (eg, nothing much will exist within the next two or three hundred years), and this is why we are now questioning beliefs in Gods, we are getting along on our own now, understanding the mysteries ourself now. For all we know, some alien may descend in his ship and say, hello, my name is Jesus, the time has come to show you my true face....

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Seperation of church and state.
Do what you want...
But religion has no business whatsoever poking its nose into science.

Reminds me once of the pope talking to Stephen Hawking, he said he respected what he did etc and should continue his work,
Do all the research you want into the begining of the universe, just dont probe the earliest moments, or try to work on the moments before, as that would be blasphemous.
Of course Hawking was polite, and didnt take a word to heart, its none of anyones business to interfere with science....

There are many examples of this... anyhu.

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As far as the Japanese pre-1945 were concerned, Emperor Hirohito might as well have been a Goa'uld.

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That's it though, as understanding of man increases, the "need" for a God decreases. If Jesus was an Alien, I'd still hate him and still want to beat him up for all the suffering caused in his name, when clearly he could have prevented it, though I am rambling all the way off topic.

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No, if Jesus was an alien, it wouldn't destroy a religion. Religion itself can be more than what happens after we die but more as in how do I live, how do I treat others, etc. Which in my opinion Jesus had great insight into how to do so.

My point: You can follow a teaching and think it to be great and not believe in a supernatural being.

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No, if Jesus was an alien, it wouldn't destroy a religion.

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