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Trucker
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Where do little queens come from?

All the current queens seem happy popping out regular old worker/warrior type snakes. Does a new queen mature only if there's no other present? Maybe the present queen sends out some kind of suppresive pheromones. *wonders*

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Lord ?okar
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I think that the queen is not just the goa'uld, but the combination of the queen goa'uld and a special host. There is no gap on the human body for larva to realistacally be able to escape from.

I think the queen is a genetic anomaly that occurs ever something-or-so larva, they are implanted in an engineered host.

So IMHO, the queen is only created AFTER blending because there is a two-fold requirement, special parasite and special host. Which would well explain why Hathor referred to herself as "we", she was actually a "we" not just a nutcase (though maybe that aswell).

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quote:
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I think the queen is a genetic anomaly that occurs ever something-or-so larva, they are implanted in an engineered host.



That cant be

cuz Share was not an engineered host.

but I think you are right. The queen symbiote does need a special host that is why she rejected so many women before Share come

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Lord ?okar
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cuz Share was not an engineered host.
Amonet was not a queen. She was Apophis' queen but not a Goa'uld queen, if you catch my drift.

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ok

I do

but how do you know that

and where did all those little larva in the Chulak temple come from

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I think the Goa'uld queens are like asexually-reproducing organisms, with two exceptions: their offspring are integrated with foreign (not from a member of their species) DNA, and their offspring can contribute their own DNA to the queen to produce a new individual.

Plus, a Goa'uld queen needs a female host to be able to give birth to the larvae, like Hathor did.

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Aww, "little queen", how cute.

quote:
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Amonet was not a queen. She was Apophis' queen but not a Goa'uld queen, if you catch my drift.

I agree, but then what about Klorel? Surely he (the symbiote)can't have been her (Amaunet's) biological child, cos.... she'd've spawned more, and besides, she's not a Goa'uld queen, as Hathor was. What's the phrase, Queen Bee? Anyway, so the next deduction seems to be that Klorel was "adopted", but from where, and considering the whole genetic memory thing ....

Any ideas?

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prhaps the queen is just a very old gou'ald
as for the speciefic host
naaaa
if they were in a tight situation they couldn't b fussy could they???


or am i just rambling

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quote:
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Aww, "little queen", how cute.


I agree, but then what about Klorel? Surely he (the symbiote)can't have been her (Amaunet's) biological child, cos.... she'd've spawned more, and besides, she's not a Goa'uld queen, as Hathor was. What's the phrase, Queen Bee? Anyway, so the next deduction seems to be that Klorel was "adopted", but from where, and considering the whole genetic memory thing ....

Any ideas?



Perhaps the Queen who bore Apophis also bore Klorel, however since Apophis was born first, he took the role as Klorels father. They would both have the same line of genetic memory, however Apophis has perhaps thousands more years of experience and knowledge making him senior to Klorel.

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But that would make Klorel as old as Ra (Ra and Apophis born from same queen). No I think he only matured then. Maybe Apophis had like a queen hidden in the sidelines producing larva and he just took one.

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Well your assuming the Queen who bore Apophis and Ra is long since dead. She could still be producing more and more Goa'uld to this day, Klorel being a recent one.

Also dont forget that any Goa'uld she does produce still has to mature within a Jaffa. I'm not aware of the time frame for maturation however.

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HHhhmmm what about Egeria? She used that big 'sack' to produce kids.

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She could still be producing more and more Goa'uld to this day, Klorel being a recent one.

But surely she'd only be loyal to one other Goa'uld? (Say if it were Apophis, Apophis isn't exactly gonna let her then go help Ra's lineage as well) And if so, then why did Apophis then take Amaunet as his Queen? (Although he did seem, at points, to genuinely love her... But then, if he did, did he love her enough to forsake heirs?)

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But surely she'd only be loyal to one other Goa'uld? (Say if it were Apophis, Apophis isn't exactly gonna let her then go help Ra's lineage as well) And if so, then why did Apophis then take Amaunet as his Queen? (Although he did seem, at points, to genuinely love her... But then, if he did, did he love her enough to forsake heirs?)


lol your over thinking...STOP THAT

Have we confirmed Amaunet was a real queen? I know he reffered to her as a Queen but it could have been an earned title.
Maybe all Goa'uld have a common instinct to protect the Queens? Part of their genetic memory contains the knowledge that their race can only be furthered as a whole by the Queens.

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