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Replicators are not a species, they are a plague, and the az'gard don't use biological weapons like the Ashen do, and 320 did it occur to you that quite a number of Tollan were on the Nox homewolrd when Tanith attacked? Did it occur to you that Tanith didn't have time to wipe out every last one? You made an assumption based on too many 'ifs'

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10-20 persons isn't what I call a civilisation. If you excuse me(if that isn't the case, then you did post a spoiler...). Below is a s5 spoiler...

Spoiler:

BTW, don't you remember the quantum mirror people, and yes, the civilisation from which that guy in "Wormhole Xtreme" did come. Not much left of them after the Gou'ald attack was it? Also, the gou'ald used something really heavy since they did destroy the stargate after all... So I don't think there's much hope for any surviving Tollans...


I say that by what we've seen so far, the gou'ald doesn't leave anything left of civs they plan to destroy. There is also no difference between biological and conventional weapons in my eyes since they are both made to kill. Like asking me if I wan't to be stabbed to death or shot to death should make any difference what-so-ever...

BTW, why does everybody spell Asgard that funny way? And I'm sorry, but the replicators can also cross galaxies in short time. Does that make them advanced?

Kamakazi, I did no such thing. Most advanced where the term I used. But lets see if I can edit it... Yes I were able edit it. But hey, welcome to make your own grouping...

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I said evolved, not that they were a species. and the replicators can because they stole az'gard tech.

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no they didn't... they modified gou'ald tech, even though that tech was probably stolen from someone else in the first place...
now explain to me what's with the funny spelling...

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i spell how it pleases me. And the replicators are not a species, the az'gardare one of the four. and therefore belong in the first group, unlike the poisonous ashen who couldn't even master the gate system!

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i spell how it pleases me. And the replicators are not a species, the az'gardare one of the four. and therefore belong in the first group, unlike the poisonous ashen who couldn't even master the gate system!


The replicators eat, reproduce, think and preserve themselves. By all definitions of life and being a species they are a lifeform, just not organic. Dont be ignorant.

I agree with the list, the Asgard may be advanced but they arent exactly on the same level as the Nox or the Ancients.

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I agree with Anudist, the Asgard aren't on their level, just as the Tauri aren't on the same level as the Asgard, as said by themselves in the eppy wher Jack gets the Ancients downloaded into his brain.

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i spell how it pleases me. And the replicators are not a species, the az'gardare one of the four. and therefore belong in the first group, unlike the poisonous ashen who couldn't even master the gate system!


One could say that the Aschen were only doing what the Nox and the Ancients are doing. Proctecting more primitive species from a gruesome fate. Besides that... Look at the gate system and look at the series. Then you'll find out that it's impossible to master the gate system to all cordinates in case you don't;
a/ Got lucky as the the Tauri
b/ Have been allies with Ancients(as the Asgard and the Nox)
c/ Stole the information as the Gou'ald
d/ Been in contact with Ancients(which is probably the case with the Tollans, even though they're truly an enigma(much as ever, since they don't seem to be natural explorers either))
Without something to work from(like the Abydos chart) I would say that the chance is almost zero to decipher the gate-system. First you would have to find a path to another planet(and yet again, if you got lucky you might find the planet in "Fifth Race" or the planet in "Torment of Tantalus" or a planet some gou'ald has left behind with all the info on). Then you would have to reason out that the markings are actual coordinates. Then you would have to calculate for stellar drift. I mean, without a DHD and a planet nearby like Abydos, the chances are ZERO to decipher it... So please... Deciphering the gate system doesn't have anything to do with advancement, it merely aquires luck(otherwise the Tauri wouldn't have done it)... I mean look at it, and you see that noone has figured that gate system out without help or theft from the ancients(except the Tollan(eventhough nothings is known)) so why should it have something to do with advancement?

Regarding the Asgard spelling I just wanted to know why you do spell it that way... I didn't mean to attack your spelling. I can't remember seing that spelling in the series, and it doesn't occur in nordic mythology...

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BTW, why does everybody spell Asgard that funny way? And I'm sorry, but the replicators can also cross galaxies in short time. Does that make them advanced?

Kamakazi, I did no such thing. Most advanced where the term I used. But lets see if I can edit it... Yes I were able edit it. But hey, welcome to make your own grouping...




not everyone does, only anubis. don't know why, just know it's beginning to bug the hell out of me so i just skip most of his posts

and 320, check out the name of the thread.

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I tried to change afterwards but I couldn't. Look at it this way, I dont know if I explain enough that didn't find the correct phrase in a language which isn't my native language enough.

Look at the subject of the first post and you'll see what I meant. I just cannot sit with a theasaurus in my knee everytime I'm in the front of a computer. That's not possible.

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Hey i spell 'em how i see 'em.
The replicators aren't a species, they don't reproduce in any known fashion, and are u saying that a group of androids can be classed as a species? The replicators are a plague that absorbs everything they touch, clearly the are advanced, they are according to Thor capable of thinking individually, but, they don't the act toward the hive, The nox are not advancing technologically, they are advancing through study of the mind, the ancients plain old stopped when the reached a point they couldn't surpass and became ascended (imho anyway)

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The replicators are not androids. aAndroid suggests some kind of transferred intelligence.

Which would make tru androids a species. But not reps.

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I seems to me that the fact that the replicators are reproducing is the big issue for the Asgards at the moment. And what would they be doing if they're not reproducing... I mean they aren't cloning each others. The construction of new replicators from tiny little bits is, in a way the same process that takes part in the human body. So. They're reproducing. And since intelligence(in a human fashion) doesn't seem to be a requirement from being a species, one would in fact have to say that the replicators are a species(though with an artificial origin). I mean just as replicators cannot surivive without technology, we cannot survive without oxygen. Basically the same thing...

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Interesting however the replicators have shown no advanced intellect as much as they have shown advanced survival instinct, however i shall submit that the replicators are a species because there are different varieties of them, however they have multiple levels of advancement: Eg. The replicators that absorbed normal metal were so non advanced they would rust, but the ones made out of Az'gard metal are so advanced that it could with stand atmospheric re-entry where the entiritey of the ship could not. As well the ones made out of goa'uld alloys were unable to reconstruct themselves like the ones on thor's ship could after being shot.

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First, Hi everyone !

Secondly, I may have put the Gadmeer but I know that since they're between death and life, it's a bit tedious.

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