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I doubt the producers will either...

Though, Quetzalcoatl, in line with JK's theory about the Goa'uld's being actual gods, well... how come Quetz doesn't really seem the sacrifice demanding type?

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maybe god's a tok'ra? a really powerful one.

I reckon some of the goa'uld took the role of Earths' gods but others were the gods and worshiped as such when they made an appearence.

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Not many people care settesh the thing is someone has found a link between the bible and goa'uld, this is undeniable, perhaps this is so but for the fact that if they adressed god they may be censored out in countries like australia where the censors are incredibly religious and saying god is an alien got the xfiles stuck at the 10.30 saturday spot soo..... And the tok'ra have never had the military power of the goa'uld, so much is known after the attack on revana by Zipacna.

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the thing is someone has found a link between the bible and goa'uld

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Do you seriously believe that?

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the thing is someone has found a link between the bible and goa'uld

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Actually Lord ?, Apophis is very closely related to the bible in the show, his jaffa tatoo, the serpent, is much like the symbol awarded the devil however when u argue that Sokar's tat is the pentagram i may remind u that we in the modern times awarded the devil that symbol, it used to belong to witches, not the devil, and some would argue that their are different varities of withces.

News flash, sokar has nothing to do with the bible, the bible was written in mesopotamia, remember, not egypt and if i remember the people that conquered the bible writers were pagan until they acquired the gods of their conquered, Sokar wasn't as vaunted as u would like him to be, no amount of evidence can beat the fact that we, the only people that matter ignore him, do u see any movies that involve sokar, generally they use the much more swarve and cool Anubis, and the show what did they do with sokar? Kill him off to be replaced by that looser apophis *no offense to apophis fans* Ritmah, it doesn't matter what i think about anything the point was, and i thought i made this clear, that someone found a link between the goa'uld and the bible. However i do agree the link is weak, i m just saying it is there.

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News flash, sokar has nothing to do with the bible, the bible was written in mesopotamia, remember, not egypt and if i remember the people that conquered the bible writers were pagan until they acquired the gods of their conquered,

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Actually, the Bible is composed of several "books" that were written over a period of thousands of years. The first five books, the Torah, were written by Moses in Egypt.

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LOL at not debating doctrine. "Arguably" is the key word there. For me it's hard to understand how a culture that thrives on and emphasizes polytheism can be the basis for a culture and religion that strictly adheres to the belief that there is only one god.

But principles and ideologies are what I believe to be the key. There are parallels of it in every culture. Gods are based more on the ideals of what the deities represented, rather than the actual characters themselves. All cultures have different gods that could be related in some way to another culture's gods because of their "role" in the the universe.

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The hebrew wrote the bible in Assyria, land of the conquerers, this is fact, it was written in the land of the conquerers, it was the conquerers who allowed them to have the bible, Egypt had nothing to do with Assyria until Assyria took them over and made them worship other gods, Ritmah and Venus did u read what i said about Apophis, therefore he is not the only one, clearly as was seen in the second ep with Unas sokar was around after the bible was written although the antarctic gate was lost first,, strange

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Sokar, in Egyptian religion, was originally worshiped as an Agricultural God, his festival was held in the fourth month of the season of Akhet, on the eve of the winter sowing. The festival consisting of people hoeing the earth and driving cattle (hence argicultural).

He was also credited with being the Deity of Artisans but lost this position to Ptah and became known as the Deity for Goldsmiths. From his earlist existance he was considered the gaurdian of the Memphite necropolis, but he wasn't a general necropolis deity, he was associated with the decay and darkness of the tomb itself. Which was odd as he was considered to be ther incarnate of a species of Hawk, likely a peregrine falcon. Such a 'free' animal was not normally associated with tombs etc, but hawks were often seen swooping down beside early graves out in the desert, this is where this custom appears to have come from. When Ptah became the principal god of Memphis, Sokar joined him and fulfilled the role of funerary God to Ptah's creator god.

Later on Sokar's festival became one with that of Osiris's festival and soon he became only a part of Osiris himself (which is the only really solid link to the after life, other then the necropolis god, which really isn't anything like being the Devil)

So you see, the statement that he was the Devil, wasn't placed on too much of a solid base as far as Egyptian Mythology went.

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U mastered egyptian mythology did u???

Clearly all things egypt are dodgey, this is indicated by the fact that we as society have only written references that are atmost, vague, perhaps we shouldn't look at the show and reference it to the actual egyptian mythology.

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lol, god no, currently educating myself (generalising helps, which isn't perfect, but once you have that sorted out you can start learning all the details, being able bring up at least some information when needed, not easy)

In fact I used one of my reference books for that one, "Gods of Ancient Egypt" by Barbara Watterson.

Maybe if you ask me in a few year time I might have mastered a good bit of it

You are quite right in that we don't know enough, I mean, if you have an English speaking Historian and say, a French Historian trying to translate the same Heirogylphic text, you will come out with two slightly different versions, there are afterall no vowels....

And because what we see is symbolic on the tomb walls (or any other site) We have to rationalise what it's symbolising, Egyptologist do a pretty good job, but there is always enough room for error...

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Yes, what it is a wee bit hard to master a dead language, on top of that language u have to look at the sociology ofthem time when researching the gods, as we have noted previously if things are bad the gods are blamed and because the people are fickle, they write mean things, if things are good, good things.

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